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negotiations between capitol hill and the white house. from today's washington journal, this is about an hour. fiscal cliff. joining us here is stan collender and douglas holtz- eaken. what is happening? what are the two talking about. guest: the nature of the tax increases, how much, and on the other side, what kind of entitlement reforms as the president willing to offer? that has been going back and forth for quite awhile now. there are talking about the same basic issues. host: one of the shore signs of action in washington, we have heard there is a possibility that they could come back after christmas. guest: i have been telling clients since september we were going over the cliff. i was not sure there was a sign it or coming back before christmas. this last-minute deal of some time, it could easily be approved -- the house and senate do not need to be here for this because it will not be the big, big deal. this is not the grand compromise they are talking about here there is not enough support to do the technical things. this could be a simple package they do at the last minute. host: e
90% the new mentality in washington is that we don't to do it december 31. they have a couple of weeks in january before this starts to pinch a bit. it is not as much of a cliff that people were saying a few days ago? host: are we going over the cliff? guest: i think we're likely to do it. you don't have major economic effects on your afternoon's person income pay, paycheck. it is going to take a couple of weeks before that to start happening. you do have a brief week or two window where if they got something done it would be a political switch but not a major economic one. host: you're a veteran of the hill. when was the last time that congress was here between christmas and new year's? guest: i don't remember but it happens a lot on budget-related matters. when i worked on the hill there were lame-duck sessions but they did not go up this late. this is kind of chaos it is close to unprecedented. i've never seen a speaker be pushed back on by his own party as hard as what happened to john boehner this week. host: let me read to you "activists that helped john boehner's plan b
a discussion about the 2012 presidential campaign. this is from today's washington journal. a look back at campaign 2012. joining us at the table is glenn thrush and jonathan martin of politico. guest: we had known that there >> we have known for some time there was always tension between the campaign staff and the candidate's family in terms of how to fill mitt romney's -- how to tell the romney story. so many americans saw this rich business man and they never got a sense for who he was as a person. one of the most fascinating is that we came across was, romney had a mormon documentarian follow him around in the campaign. he was a friend of one of the romney sons. he had great access. he made a documentary about romney. in 2010, he showed it to the family, they loved it. the staff said, we are not going to show this to the public. they thought it showed too much of him talking about his mormon faith in a way that they feared could turn off the public, which has some misconceptions about that faith. to me, that captured the attention in the romney campaign. the staff never wanted to ta
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